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Strike while the iron is hot Eastern WA and secede
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danoh
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Location: Sumner, WA Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2012 Posts: 3029
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TechnoWeenie wrote: danoh wrote: Liberty. And they won't waste money on the fucking habits of Ocra Whales. Attachment: 300px-OKRA_the_killer_whale.jpg Attachment: Orca_Okra0001a.jpg I don't know whether to laugh with you, or be disappointed that not everyone gets the point. Oh well.
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TechnoWeenie
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danoh wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: danoh wrote: Liberty. And they won't waste money on the fucking habits of Ocra Whales. Attachment: 300px-OKRA_the_killer_whale.jpg Attachment: Orca_Okra0001a.jpg I don't know whether to laugh with you, or be disappointed that not everyone gets the point. Oh well. I was surprised that no one else mentioned it or saw it....
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tako
Location: SW Washington Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 Posts: 41
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leadcounsel wrote: How about instead of surrendering valuable regions, you just take it back? Maybe try voting? Sure would be a LOT easier than all these other proposals to split states, redistrict, and so forth. Plenty of non-voters who could easily turn the tide considering most of the important elections and initiatives are lost by a small percent or a few hundred thousand votes or less. 4.5+ million registered voters. Probably several hundred thousand who aren't registered but could. ~75% turnout. That leaves about a million or more who don't vote but who can. 2016: I594 margin was 1.17 million for and 810,000 against. That's ~350,000 votes in a nation of 4.5 million voters. That is nothing, considering about 1/2 or 2 million didn't even bother on that question... 2018: I1639 margin was only 600,000 votes; 1.8 million vs 1.2 million. 1.8+1.2= 3 million votes. 1.5 million didn't vote. In these elections, where the Dems won, all were very close, maybe a few tens of thousands of votes. Could easily swing all of those if people bothered voting. Even Inslee's and Murray's seats aren't fixed. They each won by less margin than the number of people who didn't bother voting; around 600,000 or so. But over a million didn't even vote... The point is that all of these, even the larger margin races, are all very winnable if everyone would be intelligent and vote ... https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2014/ ... -electionsOne thing that was not taken into account is the mail-in voting and ballot harvesting that is most likely done from Olympia to Everett. Ballot harvesting is legal in Taxifornia. Those who hated what happened to their state, left, came here, and decided that voting for the same party would change things (by definition: insanity) in their new habitat. They also brought along the harvesting practice, assuming (and I doubt it) that it wasn't yet going on. This is why you have super majorities in Oregon and Washington. Everything is mail in and when the mail's in the unsecure mailbox of the non-voting, but registered inhabitants, they don't look for the ballots and don't report.
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Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:15 pm |
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danoh
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Location: Sumner, WA Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2012 Posts: 3029
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tako wrote: leadcounsel wrote: How about instead of surrendering valuable regions, you just take it back? Maybe try voting? Sure would be a LOT easier than all these other proposals to split states, redistrict, and so forth. Plenty of non-voters who could easily turn the tide considering most of the important elections and initiatives are lost by a small percent or a few hundred thousand votes or less. 4.5+ million registered voters. Probably several hundred thousand who aren't registered but could. ~75% turnout. That leaves about a million or more who don't vote but who can. 2016: I594 margin was 1.17 million for and 810,000 against. That's ~350,000 votes in a nation of 4.5 million voters. That is nothing, considering about 1/2 or 2 million didn't even bother on that question... 2018: I1639 margin was only 600,000 votes; 1.8 million vs 1.2 million. 1.8+1.2= 3 million votes. 1.5 million didn't vote. In these elections, where the Dems won, all were very close, maybe a few tens of thousands of votes. Could easily swing all of those if people bothered voting. Even Inslee's and Murray's seats aren't fixed. They each won by less margin than the number of people who didn't bother voting; around 600,000 or so. But over a million didn't even vote... The point is that all of these, even the larger margin races, are all very winnable if everyone would be intelligent and vote ... https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2014/ ... -electionsOne thing that was not taken into account is the mail-in voting and ballot harvesting that is most likely done from Olympia to Everett. Ballot harvesting is legal in Taxifornia. Those who hated what happened to their state, left, came here, and decided that voting for the same party would change things (by definition: insanity) in their new habitat. They also brought along the harvesting practice, assuming (and I doubt it) that it wasn't yet going on. This is why you have super majorities in Oregon and Washington. Everything is mail in and when the mail's in the unsecure mailbox of the non-voting, but registered inhabitants, they don't look for the ballots and don't report. It is my my understanding that currently in Washington, election results are not posted until after the polls close at 8PM? Ballot harvesting is thus not possible. Ballot stuffing is another matter. In Califucknia, Ballot results are posted throughout the day. Therefore activists can see who is losing, and take proactive action. IE, take a filled out ballot to a registered home that has not voted and say........... Here. It's all filled out. All you have to do is sign it, and they will take it to the ballot counters. (But sometimes, I think the signature is forged)
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Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:27 pm |
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leadcounsel
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Around a million eligible voters don't register.
Of those registered, about a million don't vote.
That's two million votes.
It has less to do with the excuse of "all those Californians coming in" and more to do with outright apathy, laziness, and stupidity of those who aren't voting. Capture those 2 million votes and you control the state.
And that is a small task compared to the fantasy of splitting the state in half and/or joining OR and ID which is simply not going to occur.
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jukk0u
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thread. Crook county, OR is the fifteenth state to pass an advisory vote to secede from OR. https://ballotpedia.org/Daily_Brew:_Apr ... 1406F88232
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AR15L
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NO WAY IN HELL I WANT SPOKANE JOINING IDAHO!
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